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Unidentified devices

Hello there,

 

I have configured almost all devices from my home network but it seems it's not everything configured as it should be. I am receiving a lot of queries from "unidentified devices". I can see my devices on the list but not my Synololgy NAS and Chromecast devices.

How can I identify these two as well? I am also using one profile because everything goes through router.

 

Also here are some results from testing:

"status": "ok",
"protocol": "DOT",
"anycast": true,
"clientName": "unknown-dot",

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    • zorro.1
    • 2 mths ago
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    Installing NextDNS CLI got an error message.

    Don't know how to solve this either and don't know if I have curl on my router Asus ax4200. ☹️

      • zorro.1
      • 11 days ago
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      now I saw that default gateway on the printer is the router. I can change his dns settings but I cannot give a name for the printer like on other devices. On the monitor side I cannot see or find any option for dns settings at all.

      • R_P_M
      • 10 days ago
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      I don't think it would be a printer (printer will be going through your router for DNS) and you would only find a few domains listed as resolved. Most monitors do not have connectivity to the internet, they are more or less dumb devices and only show output from the computer.

      Looking at the list of domains from your screenshot, I would be looking more at an Android device, maybe even an Amazon device or has Amazon apps installed. Not sure what the "united.cloud" entry refers to, it could be linked to the manufacturer of the device in question. (needs extra research)

      • zorro.1
      • 9 days ago
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      I made an research on my whole home network and I didn't find any kind of mobile app or windows application related to "amazon" or "united.cloud". I don't know where these connections come from?  ☹️

      I have Canon camera but I didn't connect yet with any cloud option.

      I don't know where to look for. ☹️

      • R_P_M
      • 8 days ago
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      I did some searches too, came up with a Set Top Box manufactured by KAON. No idea if that is anything you have there, some sort of connected TV box.

      • zorro.1
      • 8 days ago
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      Yes I have TV box connected to my smartTv Hisense but mine is from "EON". What should I do with that device? I have manually set "Manually Assigned IP around the DHCP list"  IP address and for DNS Server1 I have leave blank field which is default or optional if I want to use DNS address. Should I use NextDNS address or leave it blank (default)?

      • R_P_M
      • 7 days ago
      • Reported - view

      For DNS server 1 you could try the IP address of your router, see what happens to the Unidentified numbers afterwards.

      • zorro.1
      • 7 days ago
      • Reported - view

      I have changed to router address but didn't mention this section is on the router as well. On that device I have changed the DNS addresses to NextDNS addresses.

      • R_P_M
      • 6 days ago
      • Reported - view

       Never use the NextDNS IPs on a device, this is where the Unidentified requests come from.

      Since your router has DoT, you do not need to use the NextDNS DNS IPs in any device connected to your router. If DNS Server is a required setting for a device, put in the IP address of your router (as your router is acting as a DNS forwarder).

      • zorro.1
      • 6 days ago
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      Yes... I understand.

      I changed the DNS settings on TV Box, SmartTv, Chromecast to router address. Mine is 192.168.50.1. To all these devices I set them this address on every one of them.

      On router side I define these devices with static IP and for DNS settings I give them the same router address.

      Here are the results from the situation. Since then in the last 24 hours there is zero queries, zero blocked queries and zero percentage. But in the last 30 days (set by default showing the results on Analytics page) they just stopped but the blocked queries are not falling down.

      https://postimg.cc/RWszkFfv

      • R_P_M
      • 5 days ago
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      The blocked query count will take awhile to drop out of the 30 day period, since most of those happened only recently (a few weeks ago).

      Let's wait and see what happens in a few days, make an assessment on the situation then.

      Meanwhile, check devices are using NextDNS by visiting https://test.nextdns.io (don't post the results as some contain identifiable info)

      I'm sure I've missed some piece of info, difficult to concentrate while an allergy is affecting my nose and my eyes.

      • zorro.1
      • 5 days ago
      • Reported - view

      hello and I'm sorry to hear that you have allergy. I'm wishing you all the best to recover soon as possible.

      I have tested these devices with test page you suggested and now they show as DoT but under router's name.  On Analytics page, "queries" from "unidentified devices"started to fall but "blocked queries" are stuck and not changing at all. 

      • R_P_M
      • 4 days ago
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      Allergy has cleared, just a little left over, should hopefully be completely gone by tomorrow.

      Anyway, could you provide a screenshot of the graph on the analytics page for the Unidentified queries? 30 days and 7 days for a comparison. It's always easier to see what is happening than try to explain it.

      • zorro.1
      • 3 days ago
      • Reported - view

      sure... here is the screenshot with 7 days (above) and 30 days (bellow).

      https://postimg.cc/sQt8L3Yg

      • R_P_M
      • 3 days ago
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       That looks great 👍 

      No more unidentified queries! 

      Hopefully things will stay good for some time, until an update breaks something!

      Anyway, good job sorting things out. 

      • zorro.1
      • 2 days ago
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      thanks again! 🤗

      I am wondering how can I better the performance of these devices (TvBox, SmartTv) from "anycast"  to "ultralow"?

      • R_P_M
      • 2 days ago
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      Performance is not always improved switching from anycast to ultralow.

      First check by visiting https://ping.nextdns.io to see if there is any benefit (note the items in brackets after the times).

      Currently with the implementation of DoT on your router, there is no way to switch from anycast to an ultralow connection. This is because the DoT string requires an IP address (know as a bootstrap IP) to be entered as well.

      • zorro.1
      • 2 days ago
      • Reported - view

      I got some errors and there is a big lag when I try to open a web page on the mobile phones and computers. Here is the result from the ping: https://postimg.cc/WFmzZwLn

      • R_P_M
      • yesterday
      • Reported - view

      Well that's not good, ultralows both out and anycast 2 out as well. That just leaves anycast 1 as your only source for DNS requests.

      Running the diag tool may show up something.

    • MrRogers
    • 5 days ago
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    Hi, I think the only way to show identified devices is for those devices to have the ID name listed within them.  All other devices like TV, Smart Devices, Printers, etc should all be using your routers dns settings.  On the NextDNS setup page at bottom shows you how to set your ID profile with a "name", after doing these steps each device name will show under Analytics.  I had Edge coming up on my laptop as "unidentified" traffic due to not setting the DNS DOH with the same custom profile name as I set my laptops network dns settings to.  After making sure the browsers i use and network dns profile where all the same custom id name it works. Your TV's etc should show up as your IP address or if you setup a custom DNS over TLS name under your routers settings as the "router".

      • zorro.1
      • 5 days ago
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      Hello,

      I already give the "unidentified devices" the router address and now I'm waiting on the results on the Analytics page as they show up as the router as well with DoT, since I cannot define their custom name such as my browsers from my computers or my smartphones on the network. I also use dishwasher, air conditioner, but they didn't make any problems from the start.

      On my SmartTv and TvBox I have selected DHCP option and by doing that by default the gateway and DNS Server 1 receives the routers address.

      I assume now it's better.

      Thanks for your response as well. 😉

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